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Post by Subspace on Feb 8, 2007 21:50:59 GMT -5
Oh boy, poor Tony would be a nervous wreck!  Especially with friends and neighbors - including Mrs. Bellows - popping in to check on the 'adorable baby' all the time. And Tony trying to keep said adorable baby from blinking up a storm! Tony's folks might pay a visit too! |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Feb 8, 2007 21:55:26 GMT -5
Oh boy, poor Tony would be a nervous wreck! Especially with friends and neighbors - including Mrs. Bellows - popping in to check on the 'adorable baby' all the time. And Tony trying to keep said adorable baby from blinking up a storm! Tony's folks might pay a visit too! ha ha! You should become a screenwriter! |
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Post by Subspace on Feb 8, 2007 22:02:15 GMT -5
Especially with friends and neighbors - including Mrs. Bellows - popping in to check on the 'adorable baby' all the time. And Tony trying to keep said adorable baby from blinking up a storm! Tony's folks might pay a visit too! ha ha! You should become a screenwriter! Aww thanks, but I'm not really a good writer... I appreciate the compliment though!  |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Feb 8, 2007 22:09:55 GMT -5
ha ha! You should become a screenwriter! Aww thanks, but I'm not really a good writer... I appreciate the compliment though! Well you have some really cute ideas. |
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Post by Subspace on Feb 8, 2007 22:12:09 GMT -5
Aww thanks, but I'm not really a good writer... I appreciate the compliment though! Well you have some really cute ideas. Thanks! |
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Post by theduck on Feb 28, 2007 13:01:01 GMT -5
>>Tony and Jeannie trying to keep a magical baby genie in line... I can see much potential laughter there, alone<<
What a great show that would be!!
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Feb 28, 2007 20:12:25 GMT -5
>>Tony and Jeannie trying to keep a magical baby genie in line... I can see much potential laughter there, alone<< What a great show that would be!! The Duck Yes, it's sad that the show never got that far, isn't it? |
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Post by Subspace on Mar 4, 2007 16:19:42 GMT -5
Yes, it's sad that the show never got that far, isn't it? Very. Especially as ABC allowed that 'other show' to sink MUCH, much lower in ratings and only cancelled it at the writers'/producers'/stars' request... |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Mar 4, 2007 17:01:13 GMT -5
Yes, it's sad that the show never got that far, isn't it? Very. Especially as ABC allowed that 'other show' to sink MUCH, much lower in ratings and only cancelled it at the writers'/producers'/stars' request... Yeah, I've never understood that... it was almost like NBC WANTED IDOJ to be cancelled. Meanwhile, Bewitched should have been cancelled the minute Dick York could no longer be Darrin... a show that certainly overstayed its welcome. On that note, everyone knows how Gene Nelson (the first season director) wanted Larry Hagman out of the show and even had a plot idea that the bottle gets lost and someone else becomes Jeannie's master! Can you imagine if that had happened?! The show wouldn't have made it past the first season. |
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Post by Subspace on Mar 4, 2007 18:51:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I've never understood that... it was almost like NBC WANTED IDOJ to be cancelled. Meanwhile, Bewitched should have been cancelled the minute Dick York could no longer be Darrin... a show that certainly overstayed its welcome. I agree. For some reason, by Season 5, NBC wanted to cancel I Dream of Jeannie for some reason. I never understood it. Sure, its ratings weren't the highest it had been, but it was still a good, highly-rated show. And Bewitched's ratings had been in a free-fall for years - especially after the nosedive its ratings took after the Dick York --> Dick Sargent switch - and yet it still kept going and going and going. By the 7th and 8th Seasons they had run so low on ideas that they were basically remaking earlier episodes word-for-word. Also near the end they were so desperate for new plotlines that they had to introduce Adam, another new baby. And as if that wasn't enough - ABC would've done a 9th Season of Bewitched - they'd already formally renewed it for a 9th Season - except that Bill Asher and Elizabeth Montgomery begged ABC to let the cast & crew do something else. I mean, I agree that Bewitched should have been cancelled after its fifth season, when Dick York could no longer be Darrin... in fact, at that time Bill Asher and Elizabeth Montgomery wanted to cancel it and move on to other stuff, and told ABC that! Their reasons were that York was leaving and also that they felt the premise had been almost completely done. ABC refused to do so and bribed Asher and Montgomery with huge pay raises and part ownership of the show so that they'd stay on... It's nuts. Why, oh why couldn't NBC have been so supportive of I Dream of Jeannie? I bet they wouldn't have needed huge pay raises or stuff to make Hagman, Eden, Daily, and Rorke stay on... plus, with IDOJ, the fun was just starting... they still had plenty of plotlines to explore... now that Tony and Jeannie were finally married. I know. That's insane, isn't it. If it had been done, it'd have been even worse than the York-Sargent switch. |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Mar 4, 2007 21:17:50 GMT -5
Didn't they pretty much have to include that plot line because Elizabeth Montgomery was pregant again? I haven't seen many of the ones with Adam because on the channel that used to show Bewitched here, they ended with the episode where Samantha is about to give birth to him... very odd how they ended them there, but oh well...
Yep, exactly. Hagman had already gotten his raise in around Season 3 or Season 4, and the poor guy didn't even know the show was cancelled until he went to his dressing room to pick something up and the guy at the gate had to tell him that the show was cancelled. He said that he thought that was "so Hollywood" that the guy at the gate knew before him. He had been vacationing in Mexico or someplace and even his agent didn't even bother to tell him the show was off the air. So obviously he was willing to come back for a sixth season... he was oblivious that he no longer had a job!
Yeah, I know. And I think that says a lot for the chemistry that Barbara and Larry had that even after a few episodes, a switch of masters would have been a disaster. Elizabeth and Dick York had good chemistry too, but obviously it wasn't good enough to have the show get cancelled after York had to leave. I think if Hagman had left or been fired, that would have had to be the end of the show... the chemistry was just too important to the success of IDOJ.
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Post by Subspace on Mar 4, 2007 22:48:05 GMT -5
Didn't they pretty much have to include that plot line because Elizabeth Montgomery was pregant again? Nah, they didn't have to. I think she was pregnant again at that time, but hey, Barbara Eden was pregnant during Season One of I Dream of Jeannie and they didn't make Jeannie pregnant then... they used ATB (Above The Baby) shots, more veils (i.e. dresses that hide a bulging belly; they could have done similarly in Bewitched), and finally paused shooting for a few months. They hid it quite well, I never really noticed Eden's pregnancy in IDOJ. There's no reason why Bewitched couldn't have done the same for Montgomery's pregnancy. Oh, I see. Well, the later Bewitched episodes aren't that good anyway, so you probably did not miss much... Most of the Season 7/8 episodes are word-for-word remakes of earlier Episodes anyway. Darn that's hilarious. It does seem to be 'classic Hollywood' that the actor would be the last to find out... I agree. It would have been a completely different show without Hagman, and I tend to think it would have been changed for the worse rather than for the better... |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Mar 4, 2007 22:57:46 GMT -5
Yeah, that's true. But I guess they thought that since her character was already married and they needed something to boost the ratings, might as well give Tabitha a brother...
Yeah, I'm almost glad they didn't show them because I really dislike Dick Sargent's portrayal of Darrin.
Yeah, I know, eh?
Oh, it absolutely would have changed for the worst... having someone other than Hagman with Barbara and then being Roger's sidekick... it would be horrible!
Which brings me to a question: How was Wayne Rogers as Tony in IDOJ: 15 Years Later??
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Post by Subspace on Mar 6, 2007 0:05:55 GMT -5
Yeah, that's true. But I guess they thought that since her character was already married and they needed something to boost the ratings, might as well give Tabitha a brother... Yup, that's undoubtedly what they thought. As I said - a last-ditch attempt to raise the ratings... Same here. I never liked the 'Darrin' character as it was written, much, but at least Dick York was good as Darrin. Sargent... ehh... I'm not disparaging his acting skills, but his portrayal of Darrin was really... well, let's just say I preferred York's portrayal like 1000X more... Yeah.  Agreed, here! Also it would have further solidified the thought that Jeannie was nothing more than a slave, a possession, that could be freely exchanged amongst different arbitrary Masters. In a word: he was alright, but not as good as Hagman. |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Mar 6, 2007 9:25:40 GMT -5
Yeah, me too! Dick Sargent's Darrin was always so angry... I read somewhere that even HE didn't like his portrayal of Darrin when he would watch the show.
Gosh, you're right, and I never even thought about that, but that's exactly the message that the viewers would have gotten if they had done that.
Thought so... but who can compare to Larry? His portrayal was perfect... he knew that character so well... come to think of it they all knew their characters, and they all portrayed them wonderfully!
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