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Post by jeannietonyfan on Feb 8, 2007 18:27:14 GMT -5
OK, so in the light of all the articles that have been posted that seem to favour Bewitched, I thought it might be fun to turn the tables to a book that favours IDOJ over Bewitched. In the book "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Boomer TV" by Murray Grieg, the author favours Jeannie and comes right out and says it! What do you know? There are people in the world that think like us!
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"Of all the fantasy sitcoms in TV history, IDOJ gets my vote as the funniest and most charming, even if a lot of viewers figured Jeannie's powers wre no match for Samantha... in 1994, the Nick at Nite cable station conducted a month-long poll that revealed 58% of the 1.4 million respondents felt Samantha's powers were greater.... are you crazy? Sam didn't even have enough wattage to keep the same Darrin for the run of her show! She also received frequent paranormal assists from Endora and the rest of her TV coven. Meanwhile, bottled beauty Jeannie not only kept Major Nelson in a trance for 5 seasons, she wed him, kept her evil sister in check and did it all with nothing but crossed arms. We think that Tabitha was stuffing the ballot box."
Now in my opinion, this is more like it!
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Post by Subspace on Feb 8, 2007 20:38:29 GMT -5
OK, so in the light of all the articles that have been posted that seem to favour Bewitched, I thought it might be fun to turn the tables to a book that favours IDOJ over Bewitched. In the book "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Boomer TV" by Murray Grieg, the author favours Jeannie and comes right out and says it! What do you know? There are people in the world that think like us! I quote: "Of all the fantasy sitcoms in TV history, IDOJ gets my vote as the funniest and most charming, even if a lot of viewers figured Jeannie's powers wre no match for Samantha... in 1994, the Nick at Nite cable station conducted a month-long poll that revealed 58% of the 1.4 million respondents felt Samantha's powers were greater.... are you crazy? Sam didn't even have enough wattage to keep the same Darrin for the run of her show! She also received frequent paranormal assists from Endora and the rest of her TV coven. Meanwhile, bottled beauty Jeannie not only kept Major Nelson in a trance for 5 seasons, she wed him, kept her evil sister in check and did it all with nothing but crossed arms. We think that Tabitha was stuffing the ballot box." Now in my opinion, this is more like it! Yup, that is indeed more like it! Oh, and as far as Jeannie's and Samantha's powers go, I think there's really not enough information to go either way... both of them have some pretty incredible powers. |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Feb 8, 2007 21:36:21 GMT -5
OK, so in the light of all the articles that have been posted that seem to favour Bewitched, I thought it might be fun to turn the tables to a book that favours IDOJ over Bewitched. In the book "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Boomer TV" by Murray Grieg, the author favours Jeannie and comes right out and says it! What do you know? There are people in the world that think like us! I quote: "Of all the fantasy sitcoms in TV history, IDOJ gets my vote as the funniest and most charming, even if a lot of viewers figured Jeannie's powers wre no match for Samantha... in 1994, the Nick at Nite cable station conducted a month-long poll that revealed 58% of the 1.4 million respondents felt Samantha's powers were greater.... are you crazy? Sam didn't even have enough wattage to keep the same Darrin for the run of her show! She also received frequent paranormal assists from Endora and the rest of her TV coven. Meanwhile, bottled beauty Jeannie not only kept Major Nelson in a trance for 5 seasons, she wed him, kept her evil sister in check and did it all with nothing but crossed arms. We think that Tabitha was stuffing the ballot box." Now in my opinion, this is more like it! Yup, that is indeed more like it! Oh, and as far as Jeannie's and Samantha's powers go, I think there's really not enough information to go either way... both of them have some pretty incredible powers. Yeah, I know it's silly to compare their powers... how do you gauge something like that? |
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Post by Subspace on Feb 8, 2007 21:54:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I know it's silly to compare their powers... how do you gauge something like that? Yeah, exactly.  |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Feb 8, 2007 22:02:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I know it's silly to compare their powers... how do you gauge something like that? Yeah, exactly. I bet people think that since Samantha is thought to have been "smarter" than Jeannie, then her powers must be greater... it's stupid, but maybe that's the logic, I don't know... |
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Post by Subspace on Feb 8, 2007 22:06:42 GMT -5
Yeah, exactly. I bet people think that since Samantha is thought to have been "smarter" than Jeannie, then her powers must be greater... it's stupid, but maybe that's the logic, I don't know... Hmm, lol, that's certainly one way of explaining it. Personally I had thought that it had to do with Jeannie being able to be confined to her bottle, while Samantha did not have an apparent corresponding weakness, hence Samantha must be more powerful, but who knows? More likely it's just people who thought Samantha was better than Jeannie in all areas (except for wearing skimpy dresses - which further proves that Samantha is a feminist and a great role model for girls!  ) and hence Samantha must also be more powerful as well. |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Feb 8, 2007 22:08:36 GMT -5
I bet people think that since Samantha is thought to have been "smarter" than Jeannie, then her powers must be greater... it's stupid, but maybe that's the logic, I don't know... Hmm, lol, that's certainly one way of explaining it. Personally I had thought that it had to do with Jeannie being able to be confined to her bottle, while Samantha did not have an apparent corresponding weakness, hence Samantha must be more powerful, but who knows? More likely it's just people who thought Samantha was better than Jeannie in all areas (except for wearing skimpy dresses - which further proves that Samantha is a feminist and a great role model for girls! ) and hence Samantha must also be more powerful as well. Yeah, that's true too! I hadn't thought about the whole bottle thing. |
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Post by Subspace on Feb 8, 2007 22:11:27 GMT -5
Hmm, lol, that's certainly one way of explaining it. Personally I had thought that it had to do with Jeannie being able to be confined to her bottle, while Samantha did not have an apparent corresponding weakness, hence Samantha must be more powerful, but who knows? More likely it's just people who thought Samantha was better than Jeannie in all areas (except for wearing skimpy dresses - which further proves that Samantha is a feminist and a great role model for girls! ) and hence Samantha must also be more powerful as well. Yeah, that's true too! I hadn't thought about the whole bottle thing. Yeah. Well, - just to clarify, in case - when I said 'personally' I meant 'personally I thought that's why these people think Samantha was more powerful than Jeannie', I didn't mean 'personally, that's why I think Samantha is more powerful than Jeannie'. Well, in any case - Samantha does have other weaknesses, I guess - such as not being able to undo the spell of another witch - Jeannie never has that problem with acts by another genie - but in any case, we aren't trying to discuss who's more powerful. Sorry for the off-topic track! |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Feb 8, 2007 22:19:53 GMT -5
Yeah, that's true too! I hadn't thought about the whole bottle thing. Yeah. Well, - just to clarify, in case - when I said 'personally' I meant 'personally I thought that's why these people think Samantha was more powerful than Jeannie', I didn't mean 'personally, that's why I think Samantha is more powerful than Jeannie'. Oh yeah, I knew what you meant. Don't worry! Yes, Samantha does have that problem of not being able to reverse a spell... that's why Endora's fun to watch because she casts a spell on Darrin and then Samantha's not able to help him. Jeannie I guess has some problems with this too, how Jeannie II has the "stronger blink" and she almost has to leave with the Blue Djinn because his powers are stronger than hers. And is it with Hadji that she says "his blink takes precedence over my blink" or was it someone else? I can't remember, but either way the whole Samantha-Jeannie power comparison is silly... |
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Post by Subspace on Feb 8, 2007 23:04:47 GMT -5
Yeah. Well, - just to clarify, in case - when I said 'personally' I meant 'personally I thought that's why these people think Samantha was more powerful than Jeannie', I didn't mean 'personally, that's why I think Samantha is more powerful than Jeannie'. Oh yeah, I knew what you meant. Don't worry! Yes, Samantha does have that problem of not being able to reverse a spell... that's why Endora's fun to watch because she casts a spell on Darrin and then Samantha's not able to help him. Jeannie I guess has some problems with this too, how Jeannie II has the "stronger blink" and she almost has to leave with the Blue Djinn because his powers are stronger than hers. And is it with Hadji that she says "his blink takes precedence over my blink" or was it someone else? I can't remember, but either way the whole Samantha-Jeannie power comparison is silly... Yep. The whole thing is pretty silly. As far as the 'stronger blink' I guess it makes sense - else what would happen if two genies blinked at something, at the same time, and their 'blinks' had different intentions? It's easy to believe that there might be some genies that are stronger than others. Sort of like some humans being physically stronger than others. And it is particularly simple to understand how Haji would be able to have 'blink precedence' - he is after all the leader of all the genies, so he'd need to have some way of enforcing his judgments. But still the 'stronger' and 'weaker' blink isn't quite the same as just not being able to undo another's magic. If Jeannie II blinked something - e.g. a chair into a sofa - and then just left and forgot about the whole thing, Jeannie I (our Jeannie) would be able to undo it - e.g. the sofa back into the original chair. A similar logic does not hold for Samantha or witches in general. But - anyway - sorry for the ramble. And thanks again for confirming that I wasn't misunderstood earlier. |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Feb 8, 2007 23:29:24 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I knew what you meant. Don't worry! Yes, Samantha does have that problem of not being able to reverse a spell... that's why Endora's fun to watch because she casts a spell on Darrin and then Samantha's not able to help him. Jeannie I guess has some problems with this too, how Jeannie II has the "stronger blink" and she almost has to leave with the Blue Djinn because his powers are stronger than hers. And is it with Hadji that she says "his blink takes precedence over my blink" or was it someone else? I can't remember, but either way the whole Samantha-Jeannie power comparison is silly... Yep. The whole thing is pretty silly. As far as the 'stronger blink' I guess it makes sense - else what would happen if two genies blinked at something, at the same time, and their 'blinks' had different intentions? It's easy to believe that there might be some genies that are stronger than others. Sort of like some humans being physically stronger than others. And it is particularly simple to understand how Haji would be able to have 'blink precedence' - he is after all the leader of all the genies, so he'd need to have some way of enforcing his judgments. But still the 'stronger' and 'weaker' blink isn't quite the same as just not being able to undo another's magic. If Jeannie II blinked something - e.g. a chair into a sofa - and then just left and forgot about the whole thing, Jeannie I (our Jeannie) would be able to undo it - e.g. the sofa back into the original chair. A similar logic does not hold for Samantha or witches in general. But - anyway - sorry for the ramble. And thanks again for confirming that I wasn't misunderstood earlier. Yeah, that's true... Samantha can't undo ANY witches' spell whereas with Jeannie is't usually a case of "genie hierarchy"... hee hee. |
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Post by Subspace on Feb 8, 2007 23:32:58 GMT -5
Yeah, that's true... Samantha can't undo ANY witches' spell whereas with Jeannie is't usually a case of "genie hierarchy"... hee hee. Yup. And the 'hierarchy' only applies when there is a direct conflict at the same time, I think... reference my example above with Jeannie II and Jeannie I restoring the original state, afterwards. If Jeannie II blinks something and doesn't want it changed, and keeps focusing on it, I guess it's equivalent to a non-stop 'blink' on it, so Jeannie I's 'weaker blink' couldn't over-ride it... if Jeannie II did a normal blink however and then left, as in my example above, Jeannie I can blink again to, effectively, 'undo' Jeannie II's blink. |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Feb 9, 2007 10:04:32 GMT -5
Yeah, that's true... Samantha can't undo ANY witches' spell whereas with Jeannie is't usually a case of "genie hierarchy"... hee hee. Yup. And the 'hierarchy' only applies when there is a direct conflict at the same time, I think... reference my example above with Jeannie II and Jeannie I restoring the original state, afterwards. If Jeannie II blinks something and doesn't want it changed, and keeps focusing on it, I guess it's equivalent to a non-stop 'blink' on it, so Jeannie I's 'weaker blink' couldn't over-ride it... if Jeannie II did a normal blink however and then left, as in my example above, Jeannie I can blink again to, effectively, 'undo' Jeannie II's blink. Yep, exactly. |
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Post by rythmicjea on Mar 19, 2007 16:23:54 GMT -5
Hmm, lol, that's certainly one way of explaining it. Personally I had thought that it had to do with Jeannie being able to be confined to her bottle, while Samantha did not have an apparent corresponding weakness, hence Samantha must be more powerful, but who knows? More likely it's just people who thought Samantha was better than Jeannie in all areas (except for wearing skimpy dresses - which further proves that Samantha is a feminist and a great role model for girls! ) and hence Samantha must also be more powerful as well. Actually, to go along with the bottle theory I believe it's if Jeannie's bottle breaks then she loses her powers. But I believe Jeannie is more powerful than Samantha because if you watch Samantha's aunt (I can't remember her name) you'll see why. Samantha's aunt has lost a lot of her power and can't do anything right (it's comic relief in the show) and it's because she doesn't use her power all that often. Now, if Darren doesn't want Samantha to use her powers, then the less Samantha uses them the less she's able to control them. However as long as Jeannie has her bottle, her powers are strong and fresh as a daisy! |
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Post by jeannietonyfan on Mar 19, 2007 18:13:59 GMT -5
Well, that theory doesn't really work because in the episode "Hurricane Jeannie", her bottle breaks, and she still has her powers.
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